June 5, 2025
“Ways of Knowing” Episode 5: Abstract Pattern Recognition, or Math
Imagine an art class where you only did paint by numbers, or a music class where you weren’t allowed to play a song until you practiced scales for 20 years. This is often what it’s like to take a math class, where students spend most of their time learning to solve problems that have already been figured out. But while the basics are important in any subject, so is creativity.
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Ways of Knowing
The World According to Sound
Season 2, Episode 5
Abstract Pattern Recognition … or, Mathematics
Sam Harnett: In any math class you take, regardless of the subject, you’ll probably spend most of your time doing the exact same thing: learning how to solve problems that someone else figured out a long time ago.
Jayadev Athreya: Every problem you work on, up to, basically through college, you know that someone knows the answer to it.
SH: Jayadev Athreya, professor of mMath and the comparative history of ideas, at the University of Washington.
JA: It would be like, for instance, if the only thing we did in English classes was only sort of regurgitate stuff that was already done. Never get a chance to write an essay. Never get a chance to express your own thoughts in a creative way. Or if in an art class, you only did paint by numbers. Or you only did music class, you were never allowed to play a piece of music until you played scales for 10, 20 years.
SH: These are examples from an essay about math education by Paul Lockhart. His point was that basics are valuable in math, just as they are in art and music. But so is creativity. You have to learn how to approach a problem in counterintuitive, novel ways. That’s what mathematicians spend their lives doing and to be good at it takes practice. Practice that Jayadev thinks should start far earlier in math education. So in his courses, Jayadav sometimes gives students problems that he doesn’t know the solution to or problems that no one has figured out yet.
JA: To be creative, you do have to have some kind of proficiency and build that. But I think what Lockhart and many mathematicians would argue is that you have to allow people a glimpse of the creative and a glimpse of the unknown, a glimpse of the fact that they can contribute something new to motivate them, to build that proficiency.
SH: He doesn’t expect students to solve the problems. It’s about freeing them to think more expansively, to search unexpected places for solutions.
JA: Mathematicians are actually very comfortable in a space of not knowing something, about being confused about things, about feeling like they are kind of at a loss. And math for a mathematician, doing math research, isn’t about, ‘Oh, I want to find the one right answer.’ It’s about trying to find the patterns that underlie, well, the world around us but also the worlds we create in mathematics.
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SH: There is a common perception that math is the ultimate rational endeavor, even the opposite of creativity. It’s all about precision and calculation, being good at following rules. Again, this is what most people spend their time doing in math classes. That’s not how mathematicians like Jayadev think of it.
JA: So, one definition of math that I kind of like — of course it’s not perfect, no definition is — is mathematics is the language of abstract pattern recognition.
SH: Mathematicians are searching for patterns in whatever they’re studying, be it algebra, topology or number theory, and then trying to explain those patterns in an elegant and insightful way. To do that, they often turn to another thing that, like pattern recognition, may not feel very mathematical: metaphors.
JA: And the way you are often able to solve such a problem is to say, ‘Oh, what are the new patterns? Are there some deeper underlying patterns beyond the patterns we’ve observed?’ It’s to try to make a metaphor with some other piece of math or a piece of physics. And say, ‘Hey, these things kind of look like they fit together the same way these things fit together.’
SH: If you look back at major discoveries in the history of math, there are many examples where the revelation came from making a comparison or metaphor. Take calculus. It is built in part on the idea of treating a curve as if it was made up of an infinite number of tiny straight line segments. This comparison of two unlike things — a line and a curve — opened up a whole new way of understanding and calculating things.
JA: I think this is a really, really excellent way of thinking about mathematics. It’s a way of making these comparisons or these metaphors between things by observing their structures. So, it’s metaphors at kind of a structural — at a deep structural level.
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SH: To people who say they can’t do math, Jayadev would point out that we are practicing finding patterns and using metaphors all the time.
JA: Everyone is recognizing patterns all the time, all right? This is what we do as humans. We are trying to create and recognize patterns.
SH: So many people who could be really good at math are driven away from it through math classes that present the subject just as memorization and repetition. Dull. Confining. Often punishing for those who tend to think more abstractly. Early on in education, there’s a tendency to divide kids into those who are good at art and the humanities, and those who are good at science and math. In some ways, math has much more in common with the humanities instead of the sciences, especially in terms of how problems are approached. In math, there isn’t the kind of testing that is essential to the scientific method.
JA: If you see us, we’re sitting with pieces of paper and notebooks and laptops and maybe some chalkboards. We don’t need million-dollar labs, and we’re doing stuff in our heads a lot of the time. We’re trying to find these patterns and tell compelling stories and develop compelling narratives about these patterns.
SH: And just like in the humanities, aesthetics are a major part of math. It’s not just about solving problems, but finding beautiful or elegant solutions.
JA: The adjectives that mathematicians will use about pieces of research are “beautiful” or “elegant.” Or sometimes they’ll be like, you know, I proved this but I don’t feel great about how it looked. I got to the end but I don’t like how I got there, so I’m still looking for a better way to get there. So, the aesthetics are something that are really important to us.
SH: The view that math is completely divorced from the humanities and creativity doesn’t just drive away people who don’t fit a certain profile. It also slows research and breakthroughs by discouraging approaches that don’t conform to a preconceived notion of what math is.
JA: One of the big things that we have to reckon with as a profession — that some of the humanities fields are way ahead of us on —, is reckoning with the role of power and the practice of mathematics: who gets to tell their stories, who gets to count as a mathematician and what counts as mathematics.
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SH: Mathematical breakthroughs can come from all kinds of people working in all kinds of ways. A great example is the recent discovery of the “Einstein Tile.” For decades, mathematicians have been searching for a shape that could make an infinitely non-repeating pattern. This one shape could be used to tile a bathroom that stretched on forever, and would never repeat the same pattern. Many mathematicians had tried and failed to find this shape. Some believed it doesn’t exist. But in 2022, the problem was solved. A man named David Smith devised a 13-sided shape that looked from some angles like a goofy hat. Smith was not a professional mathematician, but a hobbyist. The 64-year- old had recently retired from working as a printing technician, and in his spare time, he liked to fool around with shapes, cutting them out of paper and messing around in a geometry computer program. That play led to the discovery of the famed “Einstein Tile” that had been eluding mathematicians for decades.
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SH: Jayadev is a big proponent of messing around with pieces of paper. It was part of his process on a recent breakthrough of his own.
JA: The question that I worked on with my friends, one way we framed it is we called it the anti-social jogger program. Which is, if you live on one of these spaces of shapes with corners, like a cube, a. And you start at one of the corners — t,. There’s a house at each of the corners, let’s say — . Yyou start at one of the corners and you want to go for a run. But you’re grumpy in the morning, so you don’t want to see anyone else. You also, like, you can’t really think so you want to follow a straight path and come back home. If you’re on a sphere, it’s pretty easy to do this. No matter what direction you go in, if you go straight, you’re going to come back home.
SH: There are no corners to pass through, so you just run straight and you’ll end up back where you started. Jayadev and his colleagues wanted to see if it was possible on a dodecahedron, which has 12 pentagonal faces.
JA: With the dodecahedron, the question was actually open.
SH: No one had been able to prove it was possible or not. With all its faces and corners, the dodecahedron is a complex shape to try and navigate. Jayadev and his colleagues tried to take a different approach to a shape —– to simplify it down from three dimensions to two.
JA: How we thought about it is we kind of flattened everything out.
SH: Using pieces of paper, they experimented with different ways of cutting open and unfolding the dodecahedron. As they fooled around, they were reminded of a different area of math.
JA: What we realized was this was actually connected to something all of us had worked on before, which was something like playing Pac-Mman.
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JA: If you go off the right side of the screen, you come out the left. If you go off the top of the screen, you come up the bottom.
SH: It’s as if the left and right of the square are connected, as are the top and bottom.
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JA: If you imagine the screen just like a piece of paper, it’s like if the left and right de sides are glued, you get a tube. And if you glue the top and bottom, it looks like a doughnutnut. That’s called a torus. If you do this with more complicated shapes, you get more complicated surfaces. And it turns out, by making a connection to these kinds of surfaces, we were able to solve our original problem.
SH: Jayadev and his colleagues applied this gluing of sides idea to their flattened dodecahedron. That allowed them to devise a search query in a computer geometry program, which crunched through all the different possible pathways. The search showed them the answer is yes —, it is possible to be an anti-social jogger on a dodecahedron. There isn’t just one running path that satisfies the conditions, but at least 31.
JA: This was this combination of abstract math, abstract geometry, a procedure called unfolding and then a really serious, deep computer search. So it brought together a bunch of different pieces of math. I don’t think we would’ve been able to do this problem a 100 years ago. It was posed 100 years ago by a couple of German mathematiciansmathematics. But we literally have both the math and computational technology to do it. It was incredibly fun because it brought together lots of sophisticated ideas, and in the end, the theorem —– we could just draw something on a piece of paper.
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SH: Math, like the humanities, requires one to learn how to identify patterns, and then come up with a compelling story about them. There is creativity both in how one searches for patterns, but also how one explains and communicates about them. It’s an endeavor that often requires mathematicians to draw on the power of comparison, of metaphor.
SH: Here are five sources that will help you learn more about abstract pattern recognition in mathematics as a way of knowing.
“A Mathematician’s Lament” by Paul Lockhart
SH: A seminal critique of the way math is taught and the possible alternatives.
“Mathematics as Medicine” by Edward Doolittle
SH: In this essay, Doolittle recounts his experience in mathematics as a Mohawk Indian and the relationship between Indigenous thought and contemporary math.
“Weapons of Math Destruction,” by Cathy O’Neil
SH: A book about how big data is increasing inequality and threatening democracy … which shows the danger when we don’t think critically about how we approach problems, especially when numbers are involved.
Piper Harron’s Ph.D. thesis on the Lattice Shapes of Rings of Integers of Cubic, Quartic, and Quintic Number Fields
SH: In her Ph.D. thesis, Harron combined mathematics and narrative in quite unusual ways.
“Mathematicians Report New Discovery About the Dodecahedron”
SH: An article in Quanta Magazine about the work Jayadev Athreya and his colleagues did on the dodecahedron.
SH: Ways of Knowing is a production of The World According to Sound. This season is about the different interpretive interpretative and analytical methods in the humanities. It was made in collaboration with the University of Washington and its College of Arts & Sciences. Music provided by Ketsa, Nuisance, and our friends, Matmos. The World According to Sound is made by Chris Hoff and Sam Harnett.
In this episode, Jayadev Athreya discusses mathematics as the language of abstract pattern recognition. A University of Washington professor of mathematics and of the comparative history of ideas, Athreya argues for introducing creativity earlier in students’ careers. This allows them to think more expansively, he says, and search in unexpected places for solutions.
This is the fifth episode of Season 2 of “Ways of Knowing,” a podcast highlighting how studies of the humanities can reflect everyday life. Through a partnership between The World According to Sound and the University of Washington, each episode features a faculty member from the UW College of Arts & Sciences, the work that inspires them, and suggested resources for learning more about the topic.
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