At Length with Steve Scher

At Length with Charles M. Payne

Prior to his Equity & Difference  lecture, Doing Race Better: Race and the Reform of Urban Schools, Charles M. Payne, professor at the School of Social Service Administration, The University of Chicago, sat down for a conversation with At Length host Steve Scher, ’87.

Recorded on Feb. 23, 2016.

Poster from the Winter 2016 Equity & Difference lecture series. Click to enlarge.

Charles M. Payne is the Frank P. Hixon Distinguished Service Professor in the School of Social Service Administration at the University of Chicago, where he is also an affiliate of the Urban Education Institute. His work covers urban education and school reform, social inequality, social change and modern African American history. His current book project is entitled “Schooling the Ghetto: Fifty Years of “Reforming” Urban Schools”. Payne is among the founders of the Education for Liberation Network, which drives the development of educational initiatives that encourage young people to think critically about social issues and understand their own capacity for addressing them. Payne has taught at Southern University, Williams College, Northwestern University and Duke University.

In this conversation with Steve Scher, professor Payne talks about growing up in the organizing tradition, the entrenchment of segregation as the foundation of educational inequity and the prevalent and “pernicious idea” that all urban schools are failures.